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Post by TTN on Dec 27, 2009 17:47:40 GMT
Yes, and that was my point really, I based my opinion on on whether to go see them on the tag that the music press used to describe the Tearjerkers.
What I should have done was seen them live and used that to decide whether I liked them or not.
It must have been a tad frustrating to be continually tagged as "rockabilly" in most of the music press at the time, if you were trying to get to a wider general audience.
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Post by roddy byers on Dec 27, 2009 18:22:19 GMT
Yep.. Stray Cat clones they think.. must admit most of them type bands i find borin. But the press just saw the quiffs and retired to the nearest boozer..
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Post by roddy byers on Dec 27, 2009 18:25:19 GMT
But then again most Ska-Two Tone bands were having a hard time of it in the early 80,s.. the press and fashion people all must sit down and decide "right time for something new what shall we push next"?
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Post by paulwillo on Dec 27, 2009 19:43:09 GMT
build em up knock em down- nothing ever change.
The claws were out for the 2Tone bands as early as 1980!
I think music is that splintered now that if you can create a decent following yourself by hard graft that no one gives a flying fuk about what the papers/journos say. Its gettin bold promoters to book you up and get you back later.I hope The Skabs can go from strength to strength in 2010- the album speaks for itself- stands up against anything out there AND its ORIGINAL.
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Post by TTN on Dec 28, 2009 0:35:09 GMT
That's a valid point there Paul, I can believe it or not. remember thinking on the Thursday night in November 1979 when the Specials, Selecter & Madness were all on the same edition of TOTP (Top of the Pops for the non UK members)
That's it I've lost, what up to that point, I had considered "my bands" to the machine.
I suppose without that "overnight rise to stardom" of the 2Tone bands this year could never have happened for the Specials or us in the way that it has.
But part of me wishes that the press had left them all alone to just get on with it.
It was going to be big with or without the press, but without the press "build them up then knock them down brigade". One set of corrosive pressures would have been removed.
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Post by roddy byers on Dec 28, 2009 10:41:53 GMT
Its hard getting gigs now,a,days..i suppose cause most old music fans stay in?So promoters wont take a gamble and certainly wont pay enough to even cover costs mostly..
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Post by TTN on Dec 28, 2009 15:50:13 GMT
I have wondered about that, I was staggered when I saw the Hootanny were charging £3.00 entry for the Skabs & Pauline Black gigs,
Given it's capacity and the numbers there, I can't see where their money was made. Even if you lot were doing it for free it, must be hard for them to make a proft putting on gigs.
I'm happy that they do the "Friday ska night" but I can't see it being profitable long term
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Post by roddy byers on Dec 28, 2009 19:14:20 GMT
Most music venues count on bar takings.. Its like the Cov Beer Engine a couple of years ago wanted the Skabs to play New Years Eve or Xmas eve, we asked for 500 quid the gaffa said no.. he normally paid us 250 back then..
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Post by TTN on Dec 28, 2009 20:45:38 GMT
It's not easy on either side of the fence is it
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Post by Hugh on Dec 29, 2009 0:33:48 GMT
Just keep playin'!
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Post by roddy byers on Dec 29, 2009 9:11:49 GMT
Barb wire..
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Post by stevo on Dec 29, 2009 10:22:01 GMT
This is from one of the better LP's I bought this year Dave Alvin and the Guilty Women
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Post by madchelle on Dec 29, 2009 22:35:54 GMT
I've been putting this off till the last few days of the year. Just in case I heard something better, Than "No we don't need to opperate on your back, we can all do it with injections into the spinal cord"!!!
Mucially Hearing The Specials live in my home town for the very first time ever... Hard to beet!
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Post by TTN on Dec 30, 2009 1:43:12 GMT
Yep, hearing the Specials in my home town would be about as good as it gets for me too - but I got no chance, I live in a village now
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Post by shan on Dec 30, 2009 14:36:23 GMT
Yep, hearing the Specials in my home town would be about as good as it gets for me too - but I got no chance, I live in a village now "I'm the only rudeboy in the village!" ;D If the Specials played Gloucester the 4 locals who'd turn up would be counting down the last 12 days on their fingers.....
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