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Post by roddy byers on Feb 16, 2009 9:04:42 GMT
I see on the Specials forum some Ska fans are giving Jerry a hard time.. thats the trouble alot of Specials fans still dont get what the Specials were about as individuals.. You can count the proper Ska tracks we did on one hand almost..while the rest is a peculiar mix of reggae,rock,soul,funk ,n, jazz*
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Post by paulwillo on Feb 16, 2009 9:38:08 GMT
I think how varied the tastes of each band member were it was surpising that it all came together to perform as it did really. I suppose some of the fans on the forum think all 7 of you listened to ska all the time and still do! If you listen to Dammers' Spatial AKA, I think thats the direction he was moving towards with The Specials. There is a lot of In The Studio in that Spatial AKA mix and I think its a brave move for him especially as its quite removed from stuff he has done previous but like yourself he is doing what he is influenced by .If Im right,towards the end of the original band,he wanted to expand members to include Rhoda Dakar and Paul Heskatt? You yourself have always expressed an interest in rock n roll, rockabilly,country etc...Brad was a soulboy ...so like you say, out and out ska tracks were quite rare by the band. A lot of all your personal influences can be heard throughout the Specials tracks.
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Post by mraardvark on Feb 16, 2009 13:17:54 GMT
i agree with the 2 above statements, ive written before that some ska fans are all ska, and everything else is rubbish, but u get that in all genres of music, i read a lot about how, in the studio is rubbish and this and that, but if u look at it as an individual album, it a great record, the attention to detail on songs like alcohol is quite intense, that probably why he drove everybody mad, the same with stereotypes, if u listen to these songs carefully all sorts of sounds are drifting in and out. i dont only listen to music, i study it, take it apart in my head and listen to individual instruments, an abilty im lucky to have, but the specials used reggae as a template to add and mix more ingrediants, and for me thats what made the specials more intresting, id have loved to have heard a 3rd album by the 7, to see the direction and how the specials would have taken a fb3 track like the lunitics, which is a very specials type song.
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Post by roddy byers on Feb 16, 2009 14:09:29 GMT
As Jerry said to me once "Beethoven musicians never questioned his idears".. maybe its better he has an orchestra who play/bow to his every whim*
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Post by Hugh on Feb 16, 2009 16:02:24 GMT
The Pascal Quartet definately questioned Beethoven's idears, and produced the greatest recording of his late quartets.
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Post by polly on Feb 16, 2009 16:15:35 GMT
There will always be people who like the beat and look of a band but don't notice fine detail. Ship happens. There are also a lot of berks on thespecials.com forum, that happens too. Personally, that's why I spend more time over here, where the music discussed is broader and humour is (mostly) understood. Plus I don't have to look at that picture of Jett Rink! ;-)
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Post by roddy byers on Feb 17, 2009 9:43:16 GMT
Most of them were 12/13 year old schoolchildren on the Specials forum who picked up on the fashion im affraid.. Where-as me ,n, Terry thought of the band as still a punk rock group at the time* Yep Jetts pics a bit stale..
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Post by polly on Feb 17, 2009 12:18:58 GMT
I was 10! Still laughed at the boneheads tho, watching it slowly dawn on them that you weren't a fascist band.... Can't say I ever really thought of you as a punk band tho, nor ska really. Obviously there were individual tunes that were definitely one or the other, but to me it was just a mish-mash of stuff called 2-Tone. When I'm at partys or gatherings with black guys round my age (40ish) that like reggae, I love dropping a bit of Specials on, something like Why, or the end of Gangsters live (the Al Capone bit), watching them get into it, then telling them it's you lot. They're always surprised how authentic it is.
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Post by roddy byers on Feb 17, 2009 13:55:06 GMT
Yep alot of Lynvals black mates couldnt understand why he wanted to play with us lot. As in punk i meant its original anti - everything not as in a Mohawk,n, studded jacket fashion statement. But saying that i doubt i would of been a fan of our music if i hadnt played on it!
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Post by polly on Feb 17, 2009 14:56:18 GMT
Punk att itude yeah, deffo.
I do get the impression that the music wouldn't have been your thing, which is why it surprises me now that you're still so involved with it, and that the Skabs have such a bouncy ska-ish sound. Thought you'd have stuck with the pure billy, or something a bit Generation X-ish.
Glad you didn't though, because the Specials are the best effing band in the world bar none, musically, politically and image-wise. IMHO.
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Post by roddy byers on Feb 17, 2009 17:03:16 GMT
Maybe im being a bit drastic there..what i meant was the music without my bit probably wouldnt of attracted me? Ive tried pure Billy and pure Punk but thats too Ristricting - Yer gotto let the She Devil in the Music take Yer by the hand boy! and Let it Shake ya around one more time for Thee!!!!!
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Post by Hugh on Feb 17, 2009 17:12:41 GMT
Put that pistol down. Didja hear the Beatles were frightened by Sweet Gene's habit of waving guns around in the studio?
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Post by polly on Feb 17, 2009 17:25:24 GMT
Yer gotto let the She Devil in the Music take Yer by the hand boy! and Let it Shake ya around one more time for Thee!!!!! Beware, young traveller, for in that direction lies jazz! Hugh: isn't it LAY that pistol down?
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Post by Hugh on Feb 17, 2009 18:43:45 GMT
Darn tooting, I didn't have time to think with all the menace in the air.
Shakin' evil sounds in the heart...
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Post by roddy byers on Feb 17, 2009 20:15:08 GMT
Its all the Devils music apparently..
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