Rod some time ago i got hold of a double cd of rare Ska releases from the 2-Tone Era '79-82... to be honest i thought a lot of it was substandard ... but there were a couple of decent tracks and i noticed Arthur Kay and the Originals were there. Not my cup of tea but they had a big following..did you ever come into contact with the Geezer .?.. and in your opinion, was there a Ska outfit around at the time who you thought were any good ? I just did'nt like Arthur Kays vocal style, and the Skadows did that horrible white man singing in a cod jamaican accent thing .. Ugghh.. Daz.
Sorry i cant remember? i guess it was in the U.K MAYBE THE mEAN FIDDLER VENUE? BUT AFTER SEEING FOUR VERY BAD SKA BANDS EVERY NIGHT BEFORE WE PLAYED IN THE STATES 1994-98 I ASKED IF WE COULD HAVE A PUNK BAND,-A SWING BAND OR A BILLY BAND - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
I think what people called ska and what the Specials did were two completely differant things- thats maybe why all kinds of people still love the Specials and alot of stuff from the same time period is now forgotten.
Good point there, i think what made the successful Ska influenced bands unique were they all sounded completely different... You could never say the Beat sounded anything like The Specials, nor Madness and The Selecter...all used Ska Rhythms but coming from different directions. Even Bad Manners had a big Rhythm and Blues, sixties pop direction. Its a shame the Bodysnatchers never recorded an album as i loved their sixties girl group come rocksteady vibe... can't judge the swinging cats on one single, but i hear their sound was diverse at live gigs. As for the rest, they kinda tried to copycat but often without the good tunes and with a stereoptyped kind of modska sound..... like the the Lambrettas version of Poison Ivy ( which i actually quite liked at the time ). .... but that wasn't my only guilty pleasure.... kinda liked The Jets and The Polecats as well...even though they were'nt really authentic Rockabilly...more like Popabilly !!
Dunno really, i suppose it makes everything easier to find in the record shop ?? .. mind you these days it seems i have to order most of what i want online......i used to work in an Our Price Store about 20 years ago. When the area managers were'nt around we'd play whatever we wanted.....which sometimes meant having to crank the volume down quick. Had some experience with music company reps then ...the independants seemed to be ok, guys from Emi, Polydor etc were mostly tossers..
Why does everything have to fit into a certain bracket? Ska,reggae,punk,soul, etc.
Journalists at work here me thinks.....I know the now DJ, Stuart Maconnie said when he worked at NME they were always trying to lump bands into a new movement and give it a name just to have something to write about.
The problem with bands that come after originators are that they all end up sounding like the originators and not as good, their are plenty of sub standard long forgotten punk bands that couldn't come up with a different spin on what came before and thus diluted all the good that punk was meant to give rise to.