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Post by stevo on May 4, 2008 9:22:47 GMT
or were gigs attended by (For example...) merely white youths who followed the fashion and the hype? What you have to ask yourself here is why certain music is followed by certain people...Most "Rock" gigs tend to be populated with mainly white males...Why?
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Post by stevo on May 4, 2008 9:30:01 GMT
What were the causes that ignited this fashion? Around this time the National Front were a very heavy presence, even infiltrating gigs by artists that had a very anti racist stance. I have never understood what good they were ever going to achieve from violence at gigs. Sham 69 gigs nearly always ended in violence , even though Jimmy Pursey did his best to say how against violence and racism he and the band were, yet they attracted mindless idiots. Even Anti Nazi League protests attracted racist protestors...Why?
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Post by roddy byers on May 4, 2008 11:59:32 GMT
I think alot of football holigan types latched onto certain bands when the footy season was over and just carried on the sameway - any excuse for a scrap.
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Post by markand79 on May 5, 2008 13:03:51 GMT
Phil don't let one opinion have such an impact..it is after all just a conflicting opinion.
As kids we were growing up at school with black and Asian friends although the images we saw on the TV were ones of the National Front and programmes such as "Love thy Neighbour".Two tone provided us with the vehicle on which we could reject the prejudice that had manifested itself in our parents generation....I think???
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Post by Hugh on May 5, 2008 14:18:29 GMT
Race, for me, is genetically meaningless.
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Post by stevo on May 5, 2008 17:53:26 GMT
Phil don't let one opinion have such an impact..it is after all just a conflicting opinion. As kids we were growing up at school with black and Asian friends although the images we saw on the TV were ones of the National Front and programmes such as "Love thy Neighbour".Two tone provided us with the vehicle on which we could reject the prejudice that had manifested itself in our parents generation....I think??? I think a lot of the prejudice for the older generation came from Ignorance of other cultures..fear of the unknown...Thankfully my parents were very liberal in their views, but I can remember other peoples parents being quite savage. If the Specials changed just one persons point of view about racism, then i think that it was a job well done.
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Post by stevo on May 5, 2008 17:56:40 GMT
I think alot of football holigan types latched onto certain bands when the footy season was over and just carried on the sameway - any excuse for a scrap. I think one of the reasons why I have no interest in football is because of football hooligans especially in the 70's...what sort of mentality do you have to have to beat someone else up because they support another team?
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Post by roddy byers on May 5, 2008 19:05:27 GMT
Never understood football, why fight over a team who are not even from the town they are playing for?
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Post by Hugh on May 5, 2008 19:45:37 GMT
I'll spell it out - B O O Z E - mixed with small brains.
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Post by markand79 on May 5, 2008 20:28:53 GMT
With teenage gun and knife crime on the up the current generation are more in need of a Two Tone type of movement than ever before,but where are the bands that have got something to say?
(why must the youth fight against themselves?)
If a clutch of such bands needed a platform then maybe Two Tone Records needs not be dead.Two Tone is a very strong and credible "brand" for want of a better word.People understand its ideals and if Two Tone has something to say then at the very least people will listen to what it is.Everyone knows that youth killing youth is wrong but when the Government says so the kids don't listen because kids don't listen to politicians.
If I were Gordon Brown I think I would be trying to hunt out the Generals number.
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Post by markand79 on May 5, 2008 20:38:45 GMT
....maybe a black and white chequered phone in the corner of the office .
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Post by roddy byers on May 6, 2008 6:10:39 GMT
But would the youth of today listen to a bunch of 50+ year olds? They need their own spokesman, their own generation of bands.
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Post by Hugh on May 6, 2008 14:09:42 GMT
...in their designer punk clothes.
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Post by roddy byers on May 6, 2008 18:54:35 GMT
Well the mod look seems to be in again?
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Post by Hugh on May 6, 2008 20:21:09 GMT
Wasn't there some comment about following fashion by the Specials...
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