I think John Lydon was an Ian fan before he joined that other band.
Didnt Lydon come on stage too sing with Mr Dury at the 1st Madstock gig way back in 1992?. Trouble is Lydon you can never get a straight answer out of him as he changes his mind about everything all the time. I know hes slated Madness in the past for ripping off west Indian music, but if you listen too the first 2 P.I.L albums then you will see that influence, I mean his bass player called himself "Jah" Wobble for fffs sake.
John seemed o.k. the couple of times ive met him..infact i wound him up on the first occasion.. He came along to see us in 1980/1? at a venue in New York..apparently P.I.L. had play there recently and there had been a near riot caused by John or something and John was getting big hassal from the bouncers- anyway he was trying to get back stage and had the misfortune of trying to get thru the stage door as i was messing with him asking if had a badge to get back stage -he was a little frantic to say the least. Saw him dancing at the side of the stage when the MK2.s played the Pheonix fest in the 90,s when the recently reformed Sex Pistols headlined. Jerry Dammers wanted to replace Terry with Rotten after the Pistols split...oh dear!
Dont get me wrong, I love old Mr Rotten as, if there was anyone who knew how to play too the crowd yet still be himself then thats the person. Ive met him twice, the 1st time is when I got backstage at the 2002 Sex pistols gig as I knew some of the road crew (having worked with one of them) and he looked at me in that glaring way and bearing in ming Im about 1ft higher than him, I nearly fainted. He then said "you a ***king journalist?" , i said no, I didnt dare ask for an autograph. Anyway i helped myself to some lagers from the fridges set up there and waited for about half an hour. John then reappeared having proclaimed "Ive just had a brandy or 2", he walked over to me, shook my hand and said "thanks for coming, we'er having alittle party just off the Totenham court road, come along if you want" and we had a bit more talk about various nonsense, I was abit drunk so the conversation was getting weird. But I didnt go as I had a girl on the go at the time who wasnt a fan of punk music and she was getting bored, shouldve known better. Glad you wound him up though Roddy, I trust "Rambo" his minder wasnt there?. Now theres a bloke I wouldnt want to get on the wrong side of.
Been listening to alot of P.I.L stuff in the last week as I may still be able to go too see them In London on the 21st (long story why I am not sure I can go) so wanted to refresh my memory of some of the tracks and yes some of it doesnt make for easy listening. Its music that can seriously cause arguments as some people liken it too listenign too a cat being strangled against a Bass guitar being manhandled. But I find that Lydons lyrics are quite rife with symbolism and theres ahell of a lot of pain in that there voice, its like modern day Folk music. I think my favourite track at the moment is "Tie me too the end of that" which from what I can gather is about life treating you badly from the moment you are slapped on the Rather Large Bottom by the midwife and getting some sort of perverse pleasure out fo the suffering backed up by some quite disjointed rifferey. On paper it sounds awful.........in my ears not bad.