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Post by davetherave on Jul 8, 2009 11:03:23 GMT
hi roddy mate,havent been on here for a while,been down with depression ,still no job and things are getting worse round here.hope you enjoyed glastonbury,i missed the t.v broadcast.i take it it went well.i dont even know what day it is lately.it rained like it was going out of fashion yesterday. the whole town center where i live has gone back to 1981 loads of people out of work just hanging around the town center bored and turning to drink and loosing their idenity in life. Hope you get a tan in oz mate ,i dont know when i will see the band next as ive got to get myself out of this black cloud that is over me at the moment. all my best mate, dave x
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Post by roddy byers on Jul 8, 2009 11:29:07 GMT
Chin up matey, know how yer feel i was back on the dole in 1986 with lads shoutin across the employment office "Roddy how does it feel to have been a pop star and now yer back on the dole" You have to just get thru the bad times because the law of averages means its gotto get better sometime. Try long walks in the country side or scrounge some weed and get very stoned* My family suffers with deppression so at any given time theres always one of us in the dumps..
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Post by mrclaypole on Jul 8, 2009 12:38:35 GMT
hi roddy mate,havent been on here for a while,been down with depression ,still no job and things are getting worse round here.hope you enjoyed glastonbury,i missed the t.v broadcast.i take it it went well.i dont even know what day it is lately.it rained like it was going out of fashion yesterday. the whole town center where i live has gone back to 1981 loads of people out of work just hanging around the town center bored and turning to drink and loosing their idenity in life. Hope you get a tan in oz mate ,i dont know when i will see the band next as ive got to get myself out of this black cloud that is over me at the moment. all my best mate, dave x Dave I feel for you mate, Im in the same boat, Ive been out of work since last november and there dosent seem to be much on the horizon. Im made to sign on every Wednesday morning and the people in the dole office dont even tell you about jobs now as they are so busy they just want you out. Money wise Im struggling and it embarrassing having to live with my parents again, but Im really trying to hold it together, ive taken up exercise and just 30 mins a day gives me a lift. Its tragic that so many people are out of work, but as Roddy says the law od averages means that things can only get better. Keep positive and dont let things slide out of control, I know its easy to say, but good things come to those who expect them and want them. Im also talking from the point of view of someone who suffers from depressive episodes now and then, so I no how it feels to let those black clouds slip over you, sometimes its hard to see through them, but if you just keep thinking in a positve way then eventually you will think like that all the time.
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Post by roddy byers on Jul 9, 2009 8:01:04 GMT
Careful what you wish for.. i got what i thought i wanted but its certainly not a bowl of cherrys.
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Post by mrclaypole on Jul 9, 2009 8:39:04 GMT
What do we really need?, Ive lived so long without having any real money to my name it dosent seem that important to me because Im eating, going out a couple of times a week, Ive lost that little bit extra bulk I was carrying, I dont have to get up at the crack of dawn to go and slog my guts out for 9 hours in a job I hated, I dont have to battle the traffic or find a parking space, I can travel to gigs without giving up holiday days to do it. There are some positives to this being out of work. I am looking for work, but I htink I might do a course instead and train up for somethign I do enjoy!!!.
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Post by roddy byers on Jul 9, 2009 9:47:31 GMT
Ive been a house husband mostly for the last 10 yrs, as my misses has a decent job.. But on the plus side its given me time to pratice guitar and write songs*
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Post by paulwillo on Jul 9, 2009 11:52:13 GMT
hi roddy mate,havent been on here for a while,been down with depression ,still no job and things are getting worse round here.hope you enjoyed glastonbury,i missed the t.v broadcast.i take it it went well.i dont even know what day it is lately.it rained like it was going out of fashion yesterday. the whole town center where i live has gone back to 1981 loads of people out of work just hanging around the town center bored and turning to drink and loosing their idenity in life. Hope you get a tan in oz mate ,i dont know when i will see the band next as ive got to get myself out of this black cloud that is over me at the moment. all my best mate, dave x hey up dave- sorry to hear of your predicament.Hope things pick up for you and you start to feel better. Life can be Rather nasty smelly stuff at times (mine has been upside down for the last 4 years but has settled down now) but its the old cliche of "its always darkest before it gets bright"and thats true. try and keep busy in some form mate- you thought of contacting the Jobcentre and getting on one of these learn direct courses they do? they are free and you can re-train ,might give you some impetus and restore self confidence. dont sit and wallow matey - you have my number so if you ever wanna call me please do at anytime .Ill send you a DVd of Glasto to cheer you up. All the best Paul
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Post by mrclaypole on Jul 9, 2009 13:51:22 GMT
Ive been a house husband mostly for the last 10 yrs, as my misses has a decent job.. But on the plus side its given me time to pratice guitar and write songs* Hope we are not disturbing you from doing the hoo vering?. ;D Ive cleaned the kitchen today to make myself useful and now Im playing online poker to try and win some beer money.not going well yet!!!
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Post by roddy byers on Jul 9, 2009 15:39:39 GMT
Im the cook too! Veg Balti and Chicken Korma tonight yum yum*
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Post by davetherave on Jul 10, 2009 10:25:29 GMT
Can i just say a big thank you to Roddy and Paul willo and all for the well wishes and Pete chambers for bringing a tear to my eye for the support and kind messages i have received on here.i know we haven't known each other long and at the end of the day I'm just a fan of the specials and Roddy but i have got to know some of you pretty well at the gigs and bumping into Roddy outside the venues and to Pete chambers my friend who keeps me going. i even know how terry feels when people say why doesn't he smile.depression ant nice and the cruel thing in this life is people dint seem to care at all apart from the few on here which i now consider my close friends.today i have taken my first step in climbing out of this dark hole.This country is being rewound back to the late 70's again so i have found a college course to do or going back to retrain in something and yes i may join a gym as well as someone pointed out to me on here,thanks for that matey. I have written a few songs as well ,not very nice reading but i fell i write best when at a low. The specials are more than a band they are my ears and eyes and as a young 15 old back in 1980 opened my ears and eyes that no teacher or social worker could ever do and their fans are more than fans they are friends my Friends.if the specials ever did one thing right in their time was care,one thing that is lacking in this life today. I write this in rem embrace of my dear friend Alison who took her life at Gospel oak station 3 years ago.she loved the specials and her favorite song was Friday night Saturday morning. sadly she found no one would listen and took her life at the age of 41 .i guess what i am trying to say is i take on board what you lot say to me and not take the path Alison took. Thank you guys for giving me the rope to climb,and i will see you real soon. your friend, David xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Post by ally on Jul 10, 2009 14:35:26 GMT
hope everything works out David Talk to people/friends it will help mate,you are not alone,best of luck with the course
Ally
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Post by bear on Jul 10, 2009 16:05:26 GMT
I’ve been reading some of this thread (admittedly not all of it so sorry of I’ve got this wrong) and I’m totally with you Dave. I lost my job a while back, I was unlucky but carless so have to take the blame but that doesn’t help at all. I just wanted to say how its affected me and maybe reassure you that you’re truly not alone. I’ve applied for tons of jobs and it gets so desperately fustrating. Sometimes I just wanna write on the application ‘I could do you’re pathetic little job blind folded with my hands tied behind my back’ maybe one day I will. Sometimes I get really dark and angry, not just at my own inability to sort it out, cus actually it’s not really completely down to me, it’s also down to the fact that there’s loads of people in the same boat and the boats just too small. That some secretary at the recruitment agency with poor life experience has no concept of transferable skills Angry that I live in a society that’s capable of spoiling huge chunks of my life time like that’s absolutely fine and natural. The fortnightly trudge to the Job Centre that makes no attempt at all to find me work, they prefer to have me listen to some arrogant and cynical Rather Large Bottomhole with crap interpersonal skills make insulations about my job search. I think what annoys me most is how incompetent some HR departments seem to be (I just can’t believe that they actually train to be that crap) in the way that they make huge assumptions about my personality, motivations and abilities. Also that they seem to be more interested in a persons weakness’s rather than strengths. It encourages me to do the same thing and it isn’t healthy. I take some satisfaction that when the job market picks up they won’t be able to be so independent.
I’ve tried my best to avoid the inevitable psychosis setting in, but it’s very difficult. I’ve often found myself attaching extreme reasoning to trivial things, like believing that the reason I got turned down was because of some critical character flaw I have. I have learnt a few things Avoid agencies cus there just an extra hurdle that get in the way Actually speak to people rather then sending emails cus it’s much more difficult for them to be dismissive. I think for me it’s been important to keep my brain active and focused so that I can keep fresh and avoid the worst of the self destruction. Thankfully there’s been some musical stuff to help me stretch mind body & soul. As long as my souls intact its more difficult for the cynics at the JC, the morons at recruitment agencies and all the other I Know who my parents are to drag me down to their level. That’s what I think anyway, hope it helps, even if just a little. Stay strong
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Post by roddy byers on Jul 11, 2009 7:26:40 GMT
Scooby Doo hell Bear! no wonder yer minds not on yer drummin..only jokin matey!
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Post by bear on Jul 11, 2009 10:06:39 GMT
but youre right tho, i aint been focusing right. But hey in a couple of weeks I start teaching primary school kids how to ride bikes! thats not work, they wouldnt actually pay you to do that surely. happy days ahead. Only a council would pay and train you to do that
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Post by Stewart Rennie on Jul 11, 2009 11:40:16 GMT
Now there's a question for you guys. A Chopper or a Grifter ?
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