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Post by TTN on May 25, 2010 23:06:04 GMT
I just looked at an old post of mine about the Blues Attack tour, what's happened to it?
has it been put on hold due to shells stuff or is it still in the planning stage?
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Post by roddy byers on May 26, 2010 5:52:17 GMT
Basically.. we are finding it hard to get paying gigs... we could gig everynight of the week but it would us money!
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Post by clashcity on May 26, 2010 8:05:17 GMT
Are you definitely playing Boomtown Rod ?- l saw your piccie on the Devil Kicks Dancehall page. And Toots!
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Post by TTN on May 26, 2010 18:36:52 GMT
I know i have said this before I know the square want you back there at some point maybe you could tie that in with another Hoot gig - i know these are hard times for all bands
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Post by roddy byers on May 28, 2010 19:17:59 GMT
They all say they want us back - but at a reduced rate.. ive stopped taking any money myself but its still aint enough for a six piece band + crew etc..
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Post by TTN on May 29, 2010 15:04:36 GMT
There's the rub - we all love the "live" music scene but there ain't enough of "us" to support the bands we love in the live enviroment.
It's a real shame that most "pub/club" gig struggle to cover the costs involved and one of those costs are the band themseves.
I have often wondered how places like the Hootananny make any money at all from their gigs - they typically charge £3 - £5 to get in, it doesn't take too much working out how many people they need in to cover their outlay for the average band. The numbers just don't add up, they must assume they will get their money back through wet sales but that in turn means they have to shift some serious beer volumes.
It must all come together, but I can't see how, unless of course you get the beer supplied to you for free or the band for a knock down price.
I have no intention of stopping going to see live music played - as long as the musicians I like continue to play in my area I will support them with my presence.
I just hope there are enough people like me about to keep live music going
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Post by roddy byers on May 29, 2010 16:39:57 GMT
Pubs in Coventry give young bands a crate of cheap lager and maybe a thank you...
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Post by TTN on May 30, 2010 18:34:04 GMT
I spose they all have to start somewhere - but what a hard way to learn about a life in music for most.
When the best you can realistically hope for is no money and cheap lager
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Post by occupation on May 30, 2010 22:36:09 GMT
Some would say the thanx and the create were the real deal. Classical musicians starting out have to PAY for the priviledge of being allowed to go on stage in some set ups. How pathetic is that?
As for bands, if it weren't for them there'd be no event - the singular reason that venues can afford to stay open. A peoples collective will be needed to lay on gigs and make sure the performers get paid. Method, all money that would otherwise go on alcohol and freshments goes to the band, everyone brings own freshments.
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Post by roddy byers on May 31, 2010 8:35:55 GMT
Never saw a any cash from gigs for years... Back on the dole by 86.. its only recently that we have seen dollar and who knows where that will lead? But yer cant gig without tut refreshments*
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Post by paulwillo on May 31, 2010 9:23:18 GMT
Its a nightmare trying to get gigs for any ska related bands at the moment. The prob you have is as well is because of the nature of the mass bookings by bands like The Beat, Bad Manners etc they soak up all the work. Its good to see bands playing but nowadays its just one long tour all year round- this affects numbers on the gigs that come after that as well.No one seems to just do "tours" any more. They should go and record and write new material as Rod has done .Then tour to promote new material not just every week every month all year round. when you approach venues and say who you are trying to get gigs for, the venue say " Oh we've had a ska band every month...." or if they have a bad show i.e small crowd numbers , trouble etc... they knock ska on the head. Then add this to the recession- its a s-h-i-t-e situation. The tribute acts can get paid £1000 + when the original artists cant get f-u-c-k all. Does my head in!!!!
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Post by mrclaypole on May 31, 2010 11:24:13 GMT
Its a sad situation, my mates band have to pay the pubs too play. Its shocking really that new music is being stifled by unscrupulous landlords.
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Post by TTN on May 31, 2010 14:07:36 GMT
I'm not a promoter or a venue owner but if I was It have to be on the "square deal" basis.
What's needed is a Club to put on Ska/2tone gigs on where its the fans that are in charge of things not the usual maximise the profits people.
Not just in Coventry but regional ones.
I am now going to see if I can't put on a gig, pay the going rate and still not loose any money. I won't be aiming to make money - just not loose it
Anyone got any ideas who I could get to headline?
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Post by roddy byers on Jun 1, 2010 5:13:19 GMT
Super Ska groups been there tried that..
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Post by paulwillo on Jun 1, 2010 7:56:14 GMT
you may start out with a good crowd but it will dwindle. Ska club longevity isnt great but its always worth having a go. In 25 years of promoting, I made money on possibly 2 acts. (Desmond Dekker & Derrick Morgan)- so if you break even you've done VERY well. you must PROMOTE the gig to death- dont rely on facebook or other internet media.You need press,(get local press to do a pre-show spot and possibly give a way a few tickets in a compe-t-i-t-ion),local radio exposure, you need to be out on the streets flyering and putting posters up where you can, get it registered on Ents24.com, allow people to buy from ticketweb out of towners prefer to do this than sending off to a home addresss etc..for ticket purchase), ensure the band you hire are advertising it, , its a tough job but enjoyable I find. Good luck with it Tom.
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